The 8th annual roundup episode of Chris Nelder's Energy Transition show

Every year since Chris Nelder started the Energy Transition Show, he’s interviewed me for the annual roundup episode, and this year is no exception. We discuss the proper role of government in a capitalist economy, climate change doomism, how the fossil fuel industry rigs the system, and the difficulties of the mid-transition as we shift away from conventional energy systems.

The full episode is here:

[Episode #207] – 8th Anniversary Show | The Energy Transition Show

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